GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remo,

Are you calling me a racist? </div></div>

Mi throw mi corn </div></div>




Remo,

A simple yes or no will suffice.

[RichD]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Frankly, there are no better analogies for the type of situation in which a person get hopelessly entangled with something and cannot extricate themselves.





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so this is a phrase regularly used in your circle?

[mountaingal]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remo,

Are you calling me a racist? </div></div>

Mi throw mi corn </div></div>

[mountaingal]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

&quot;tarbaby&quot; was one of the epithets du jour flung my way when i first arrived in canada all those decades ago.

guy used a racist metaphor, and likely knew exactly what he was doing. shame on those who would try to excuse his racism.

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Frankly, there are no better analogies for the type of situation in which a person get hopelessly entangled with something and cannot extricate themselves.





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so this is a phrase regularly used in your circle?



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It's an obscure phrase but one that exactly fits situations like the one in which the rep thought himself inextricably involved.

Do you have a phrase that says better in two words all that is involved in such a situation but without the added racist connotation?

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remo,

Are you calling me a racist? </div></div>

Remo,
I'm waiting for a direct answer.

[RichD]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Frankly, there are no better analogies for the type of situation in which a person get hopelessly entangled with something and cannot extricate themselves.





</div></div>



so this is a phrase regularly used in your circle?



</div></div>


It's an obscure phrase but one that exactly fits situations like the one in which the rep thought himself inextricably involved.

Do you have a phrase that says better in two words all that is involved in such a situation but without the added racist connotation?






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how about &quot;sticky situation&quot;. &quot;bogged down&quot;...&quot;gummed up&quot;

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

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RichD,

Not even close.

The expression &quot;tar baby&quot; is shorthand for a long story that makes a succinct point which is unmistakeable in its meaning.

If it had no racist connotation, the rep would have no problem being perfectly understood.

On the other hand, &quot;sticky situation&quot;. &quot;bogged down&quot;...&quot;gummed up&quot; have many other meanings that do not apply to the situation.

[RichD]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[

RichD,

Not even close.

The expression &quot;tar baby&quot; is shorthand for a long story that makes a succinct point which is unmistakeable in its meaning.

<span style="font-weight: bold">If it had no racist connotation, the rep would have no problem being perfectly understood.</span>

On the other hand, &quot;sticky situation&quot;. &quot;bogged down&quot;...&quot;gummed up&quot; have many other meanings that do not apply to the situation.

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so you are suggesting that people are just obtuse and looking for bias where there is none?

[Wendy]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

This does not even surprise me in the least that JC would defend this CRAP!

I often try to give him the benefit of the doubt and with each post he makes I am more and more convinced he is only trying to be what he truly is.......... I'm sure you can figure out what that is

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R_C</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Uncle Remus in happier times



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;The Tar Baby story celebrates the ingenuity of the slave and his determination to get free at any cost. The plantation South was the slaves' brier patch, and the Tar Baby just one of many traps set....&quot;</div></div>

jc, you cannot be serious.

Here is a man who has been referred to as, &quot;uppity&quot;, a &quot;burglar&quot;, and a &quot;witch doctor&quot;, to name just a few thinly coded epithets that have been thrown at Obama by prominent Republicans, and you are coming on here to tell me that the only suitable analogy for &quot;a sticky situation&quot;, a questionable way to describe the debt ceiling negotiations as it is, was one with historical references to slaves and slavery ?

Your casual rejection of the context in which this phrase was first used is simply outrageous. </div></div>

[jah_yout]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

this is another l<span style="font-style: italic">earnable</span> moment (if any word guh suh)...

i never knew the term tar baby was actually a real world term...

i only knew it as a racial slur

[RichD]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is another l<span style="font-style: italic">earnable</span> moment (if any word guh suh)...

i never knew the term tar baby was actually a real world term...

i only knew it as a racial slur </div></div>


is only real word in en<span style="font-weight: bold">light</span>ened circles

[Wendy]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is another l<span style="font-style: italic">earnable</span> moment (if any word guh suh)...

i never knew the term tar baby was actually a real world term...

i only knew it as a racial slur </div></div>

This only proves that one can &quot;twist&quot; anything to suit an agenda or the make an argument, no matter how ludicrous

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar


so you are suggesting that people are just obtuse and looking for bias where there is none?


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What I said is what I said and that is:
I did not sense any racist intention in the use of the Uncle Remus tar baby story as a precise analogy to a real life situation.

[johnnycakes]

Re: GOP Lawmaker Apologizes for Obama “Tar Baby” Remar

[quote=WeNdY]This does not even surprise me in the least that JC would defend this CRAP!

I often try to give him the benefit of the doubt and which each post he makes I am more and more convinced he is only trying to be what he truly is.......... I'm sure you can figure out what that is

WiNdy ,
You're quite the one for hit and run and for not having the courage or the intellect to back what you post.

Why don't you post what you think I &quot;truly&quot; am and then we'll see how you try to deal with the consequences.